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What's wrong with using the already expressed intentions of the community, as expressed by the upvotes on each submission, as the 'final say'?

You should give the money to Pinboard.



I don't understand how YC could not invest in Pinboard, given the opportunity.


It cost $37,000 to send Maciej to Antartica to write about it.

At $20,000 for the YC Fellowship, it seems like an absolute steal. I for one would love to see the results of this experiment.


My understanding of the Fellowship was to fund very early ideas, not to just be a way to sneak into YC funding.

The problem which I understood the Fellowship to be addressing is that so many later stage companies apply to YC that it is very difficult for a pre-revenue company to compete.

If YC 'should' invest in Pinboard, why not invest as part of YC and not YC Fellowship?


If you read the YCF page, Pinboard hits basically all the criteria:

- Single founder, not a large group

- Hasn't raised any outside capital

- Working on idea full time.

He's even local to YC!

The YCF page says you don't need traction to apply. It doesn't say you can't have traction.

Moreover, it turns out that the funding structure for "Apply HN" is "YCF terms". But that doesn't mean "Apply HN" and "YCF" are the same concept.

Finally, isn't Pinboard basically running away with the HN vote for "Apply HN" at this point?


Good points. I understand that Apply HN and YCF are not the same concept, but I was under the impression that Apply HN applications were going to take 2 YCF positions.



The thing is, what does Pinboard actually need? It's a lean one man operation, and has a viable subscription model. Why would that person want VC money?


His actual response when a YC partner sincerely offered to work with Pinboard:

> I feel like after seven years, I have a pretty good sense of what bookmarking/archiving needs people have, but am at the limits of what I can personally build. If the votes swing my way, I'd be happy to have a good-faith conversation with you.[0]

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11441978


I like money!


Plus, how else are you going to pay Delicious' AWS bill if you actually succeed in buying it?


It's not your money!


I do not understand the point of this comment at all. Everybody doing 'Apply HN' is looking for outside capital. Pinboard has a loyal following that would probably be interested in additional value being added to it.


I think it is clear. When someone invests in your business, it is not your money. It belongs to the business and is there to help the business grow.


Personally, the 20k is a steal when you imagine the tweets and blogposts that will come from Maciej given that he is out through the YC process.


Steal for whom? You?


There are a lot of interesting ideas in the submissions, so I wouldn't be surprised if Pinboard is one of them. It seems like an interesting pick.

Personally, if I could only pick one, I'd pick Eat My Dust - Home testing for dangerous materials. I know there's products that do this already, but I think there's a lot more that could be done.


As much as it would be a good investment for YC, I think the fellowship program is not the appropriate program for Pinboard.




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