The Hobbit is a story for kids; and by the point grown men make million-dollar budget movies out of it, there isn't much of the original life left, anyway.
The original contract is super short; the movie contract is extremely bloated... maybe it really does take a lawyer to call that bloating "an impressive piece of work". Impressive would have been to make a children's movie out of a children's book, instead of doing whatever with it and staining the careers of otherwise fine actors, just because it can't fight back and money is nice to have.
If this offends anyone; good. The existance of all these movies, their treatment of legit stories for children to turn them into brainless crap ala Star Wars, offends me as well.
> If this offends anyone; good. The existance of all these movies, their treatment of legit stories for children to turn them into brainless crap ala Star Wars, offends me as well.
Well, the inability to appreciate beauty or subtlety in a movie offends me. What's the more brainless, the person who watches a movie and contemplates it, or one who dismisses it without a thought?
What's the more brainless, the person who watches a movie and contemplates it, or one who dismisses it without a thought?
Without a thought, and without paying attention to any indicators.. or merely without watching the full-length movie? Huge difference. But I appreciate the irony of telling me how my decision-making process goes without having the faintest idea of it, not to mention my ability to appreciate beauty or "subtlety". Subtlety.. I might watch The Hobbit one day just to think back to this post and laugh.
So you made your comment without having even seen the movie? That seems to give you even less of a position from which to call something "brainless crap" surely? If I've mis-spoken because I haven't fully appreciated your decision making process, it's because you didn't make enough of an effort to articulate it in the first place.
But whatever. I think I'll take a lesson from The Hobbit myself right now, which is don't feed the trolls, for nothing good will come of it.
I've seen LOTR, and I read the book (at an appropriate age too haha). I "know" The Hobbit is no less pompous and derpificated a conversion. Just looking at still images of it is enough for me. The good guys are good looking, the bad guys are ugly, music tells you what to feel every step along of the way, all of that crap; I know it, and I don't see anyone denying it. So I'm simply trusting my intuition on this, you know?
How much shovelware do I have to take before I am allowed to skip one? I don't even think Tolkien was the greatest author ever (there's just so much random stuff in LOTR for example), but for me there is bounds and leaps more humanity in one of any of those books than in all LOTR movies combined; so unless I missed the dude remarking that LOTR was horrible, and that he is making The Hobbit differently to make up for it, I know that for me this thing is going to be neither subtle, nor beautiful. I just didn't want to point all of this out in detail because it makes me seem like such a snob, I'll take the "troll" thanks. If this stuff is fine art for you, I'll be rolling in the dirt having fun.
> How much shovelware do I have to take before I am allowed to skip one?
Before you skip one? As much as suits your preference, of course!
But in this case, you took pride in offending other people, some of them with more information than you (e.g. they watched the movie). And you appear to be engaged in a protracted (3-comment) campaign to defend your analysis of the movie. It should be obvious that this campaign is doomed to failure, given that you explicitly admit ignorance of the actual subject matter. How much shovelware do you have to take before you successfully persuade other HN commenters of your analysis of the shovelware? Probably all of it.
I only mention all this as a suggestion on how to better enjoy your time commenting on fora, and how to help others to better enjoy their time. Just a suggestion, YMMV.
Maybe off-topic: I wasn't very impressed with the LOTR movie adaptation either, and I'm not bothering to see The Hobbit. But, you know, whatever. The books are available any time I want to re-read them. No big need to attempt to offend passers-by with my disdain.
Well, I seem to have at least 5 peeps who silently agree -- two who vocally disagree. And you didn't mention anything in the movie, you know, pointing out a flaw in what I said; and you won't even watch it yourself - so what exactly are you berating me for? lmao...
you explicitly admit ignorance of the actual subject matter
Bullshit. Read it again, slowly this time.
No big need to attempt to offend passers-by with my disdain.
There is plenty of need. Nietzsche said "it's not your job to be a fly swatter", and I was all like "fuck you Nietzsche, you can't tell me what to do!". It's nice for you if that's not your thing, but not really relevant to me otherwise.
I actually read the article with interest because I took a law course once and now being in software business we have to read/write/execute contracts all the time.
