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"What these government-haters"

Hi. libertarian here. I don't hate government. Government is probably a necessary evil.

I hate obnoxious, inefficient, bug-ridden, corrupt, expensive, government. I hate government that says one thing to get elected and then promptly does another. I hate government that ostensibly is an extension of the will of the people and then acts against their expressed wishes.

But I'm not grumpy about it.



Hi. Anarchist here, I do hate government. Government in my opinion is an unnecessary tragedy that has befallen humanity and murdered close to 1 billion people.

This is by far the most intelligent community I have come across in all my internet travels, and if there is any group of people who can think of a way for society to run peacefully, it is this community.

Any problem we have as a society that people currently point to government as a solution, can be solved without resorting to threatening everyone with police action.


It worked in that utopia called Somalia after all. :-)


The non-sharia controlled parts have been better off than they were with their previous government. Their air travel industry is even profitable, more than we can say.

I'd say that's a lot more than you could ask for considering the exploitation of the region.


Kinda sucks if you do live a sharia controlled part then. Here in the UK there are groups who would love to annex of chunks of the country as sharia zones but thankfully the law prevents this.


That was 'libertarian' with a small 'l'.

I'm not dogmatic: if anarchy can work, I'm all for it.


Everybody wants well-run government, that's not libertarianism. Libertarians want less government, not better government.


I may have skipped over some steps in my thinking.

But yes, a small government with few to little power is what we need.


Yes, because big business doesn't have enough power yet already.

That's who would step in. You would reduce the size of government and corporations would just fill the power vacuum.

But we all know who funds the Libertarian party anyway - corporations or billionaires (who own corporations).


> Yes, because big business doesn't have enough power yet already. > That's who would step in. You would reduce the size of government and corporations would just fill the power vacuum.

Because that hasn't happened already, even with a huge government.

> But we all know who funds the Libertarian party anyway - corporations or billionaires (who own corporations).

Corporations are actually government entities. One of those handy things that help businesses get big enough to manipulate governments.

A business doesn't just apply as a corporation for tax benefits, it also does so for the limited liability. So when they unwittingly contaminate your property, or accidentally poison you with rancid meat, the owner of the corporation won't have to sell their house to settle the lawsuits that follow their companies negligence.

So that government you think protects you from big business, passes the risks that business owner would normally have to take upon himself, onto you.


While I have no issues with these arguments or their intent, I feel like this is not the forum for such a discussion. There are much better venues for political discourse than HN - let's keep it about tech.




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