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No. Rebuilding the entire userspace set of services to be a systemd cluster is not nice. It's essentially redoing the traditional Linux approach, which has worked relatively well for years. There are a number of things that could be split out and made more modular - c.f., uselessd for a more in-depth analysis.

To be clear, I'm not claiming that SysV init is The Best Way. Shell scripts are not the Happiest Place. But I am claiming that systemd is a crummy and overbearing replacement.



> It's essentially redoing the traditional Linux approach

It seems like that's part of their mission statement, given comments like this: "Some day, we will have turned the old crap into a real operating system. :)" -- Kay Sievers (https://plus.google.com/+TomGundersen/posts/eztZWbwmxM8)


Yeah, and they seem to be using Windows as their model of what a "real operating system" looks like.


Both Windows and OS X have a unified management mechanism.

In fact, OS X's launchd was a direct inspiration for systemd because of how nicely it works there. I've wanted launchd on servers for so many years.


OSX is not an appropriate choice for a server, and Windows has limited reputation in my mind since they put the GUI in kernel space.

we should not emulate the things we've overtaken and have a higher server market share than. Something we've been doing before is doing it right, and I believe it's the ability to be dynamic and modular.


Windows is actually used on servers quite a bit, but that's besides the point.

Service management has been a problem on (Linux) servers for a long time. Just because launchd originates on a desktop doesn't mean it's not a good idea.




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